People of Plainfield you should know this about Edward Hospital. They are non union and will be that way forever why you say. They won`t even let a union rep. come on their propery to let employees know what they can do for them. Edward wants to be able to create their own rules and treat their employees badly and keep them under their control. Ask anyone who works there they will tell you the truth about the place. Unions helped build this country but Edward Hospital as far i`m concerned is afraid they will loose their upper hand if a Union was to come in. Funny thing free speach is supposed to be a thing our Constitution supports but when it comes to a Union wanting to speak to the employees at Edward Hospital they won`t allow it to happen. Think again people of Plainfied as I know there are a lot of Union workers that live there do you want a Hospital that won`t acknowledge an American Union there?? Think about it.

They should not get approval for that Hospital. The people of Plainfield should know how poorly that place treats their employees.
They run the place like a concentration camp. I know I used to work there and lost my job. The turnaround there is just unbelievable they say it`s the place where people choose to work but just ask them why the turn around is so high.

To Edwards needs to follow the rules,

Agree. If the rules need to be changed so be it. Meyer needs to work within the system to try to change the rules.

Yes, both quality of care and patient satisfaction is nothing to write home about. Quite mediocre actually. Edward just spends a lot on PR and Marketing and a lot of people in Naperville are dumb enough to believe what they hear or read without checking the facts and researching for themselves. Fact is we know about Edwards because we live, work, and/or play around here. Go 10 miles in any direction and the name means nothing. It is not and never will be a destination hospital known for leading edge, high quality health care. It is simply lost in the sea of mediocracy that envelops community hospitals.

Another thing that is nothing to write home about considering how much money this hospital makes is the absolute pittance they give away for TRUE CHARITY health care. The play a sick game of going out MARKETING their hospital and services at all kinds of fairs and events, usually with some kind of "free screeing". Instead of charging that as a marketing expense they write it off as charity health care since no one paid for it. What an abuse of the system. If we looked at how much true, actual charity health care is provided each year by Edwards we would all be shocked. The fact that Edwards is incorporated as a non-profit is a joke and sbuse of the system. They are all about profit and nothing else.

There are homeless people in Naperville and there are lots of people in Naperville that either do not have insurance or are underinsured. Edwards does not treat these kinds of people. You won't see them in the emergency room, you won't see them in a patient room, you won't see them in a treatment room.

None of the large medical groups or private physicians occupying the medical office buildings on or around the Edward campus provide charity health care either. If you can't pay they will not see you.

The only exception is emergency room care and surprise, surprise that really isn't Edward Hospital because the emergency room is contracted out by a bunch of doctors who lease the space from Edwards. If you can't pay and have an emergency they treat you enough to stabilize you and discharge you or they transfer you to another hospital.

Pam Meyer-Davis etal need to follow the rules just like all the rest of the state. She deserves no special treatment for ratting on the bums that were running the board. Thanks for restoring some credibility to the board but you're still not entitled to any deals.

Edward has had the benefit of geography. Many hospitals like Edwards prosper in communities with insured patients and in growing populations. No different than the businesses, realtors and homeowners have done. There is no magic at Edwards and the CEO is no superstar. Look at their financial performance, quality outcomes and patient satisfaction. Nothing to write home about.

There are plenty of skeletons in the closets of Edwards with spouses as business partners and poor patients transferred out for "specialized care". Davis is able to mobilize her employees for the cause and that is admirable. One flaw is she can't accept no for an answer and is relentless in her pursuit of the prize (whatever that may be) ie the heart hospital, plainfield, etc.

Sorry Davis etal, back in line and follow the rules. Until you meet the criteria there is plenty of capacity in Aurora and Joliet for the Plainfield residents if Edwards is full.

As for the data at hopitalcompare... well that is only one snapshop in time from one reviewer of certain aspects of the organization.

Looking at the same data you looked at... Edwards is pretty much running neck and neck with their results and the results of both averages of all Illinois hospitals and national averages of all hospitals which supports my opinion of mediocre care. Of what has been rated it is just average and it certainly isn't excellent.

I find it interesting that they fared significantly lower than national averages in simple things things like getting a bed pan emptied. No wonder they went to private rooms, they didn't want anyone to hear all the unanswered call bells.

Telling to is that only 79% of their patients would recommend Edwards to their family or friends. I suppose you will accuse all 21% of these patients of having some kind of grudge too? Bottom line if Edwards was delivering the excellent health care you would have us to believe it is I would expect the number of satisfied patients to be significantly higher. And I would expect their number of medical malpractice cases to be significantly lower.

Consider yourself lucky, very lucky. Then go look at the public record. For a first start go to the court filings and take a look at not only Edwards but also their physicians and look at the medical malpractice lawsuits.

The first thing that will knock you over is the sheer number of cases filed related to treatment at Edwards. The second thing that cause your jaw to drop is to actually read what they have done to patients. Then take a look at the settlements.

Thank you for wishing me well at CDH. That was kind of you. Let me return the favor and wish you well too. I will pray for you and others that still have faith in Edwards.

I went to www.hospitalcompare.hhs.gov and compared Edward, Good Sam, and CDH. Edward equals or exceeds CDH in almost every category. My own experience is that Edward is an excellent facility and I am glad we have Edward in Naperville. I hope you always carry enough cab fare. And good luck on your trip to CDH if you ever are involved in an accident. You sound like you have a grudge against someone at Edward.

My conclusions come from the satisfactory care that I and family members have received there. With the exception of one emergency room visit while they were under construction, we have had no problems there.

I compare this with my experiences at Good Samaritan, St.Joe's in both Joliet and Aurora, and CDH. To tell you the truth, the worst treatment of family members was my daughter's at CDH. As I stated before, everyone bases their opinions on care given. I have not seen a reason to oppose Edwards based on my experience with them.

By the way, if you are the one that denigrates the care at Edwards, it is your responsibility to provide the research and facts, not rhetoric, to back up your statements. My conclusions have already been reached based on personal experience.

The information is out there if you know how to look and where to look. There
are a ton of governmental and private organizations that evaluate all hospitals.

There is information about the hospital itself, information about doctors, information about the services and the quality. There is insurance information... from all kinds of aspects. There are the law suits, medical misadventures, medication errors, illegal employee activity. There are disciplinary records for licensed and registered professionals. There are inspection reports from the fed gov, the state gov, the fire department, the health inspector, and a ton of others. I have looked at all of this for many, many years and what I see at Edwards compared to its competitors is not good.

My responsibility isn't to do your research for you and provide you with "facts". Do your own research and gather your own "facts" and come to your own conclusion. My conclusion is that if I was injured in a car accident on Washington Street in front of Edwards Hospital I would call a cab and tell them to take me to CDH. That is how strongly I feel based upon what I know and have learned over the years. If you were privy to the same info I'm sure you would agree. No, I'm not sure you would; I'm positive.

So name some of those many community hospitals.

The Plainfield leaders are looking to proven company to get a hospital up and running in a short time. What facts do you have to back up your claim that Edwards is a bad hospital?

What Cook County has is far, far from being anywhere near a community hospital nor is it a system either. Take a look at NYC and their NYCHHC if you would like to see an example of a public hospital system. Whether or how well a public hospital in Cook County is working isn't relevant to this discussion anyway. Take a look up and down the Fox River and there are all sorts of community hospitals in both our immediate and extended area... all built by their civic leaders because they took pride in their community and wanted their family, neighbors, friends, and workers to have medical resources when and if they were needed.

Why is there such a void of civic leaders in Plainfield? If they are so lazy that they can't do this on their own why in the world would they turn to Edwards to bail themselves out? Even St Joseph in Joliet would be a far better choice of hospital than Edwards.

How many 'community' hospitals are there currently in operation in this area? The only thing close to a community hospital is the Cook county system. That is working out well for them, isn't it?

Every town has community leaders. It is up to them to organize and build a hospital. That is how nearly every single community hospital in this country has ever been built.

And it will generate lots and lots of profit. Do you think Edwards wants to expand into Plainfield to lose money? Their CEO and most of their top docs all earn over $1,000,000 a year each. How do you think they are going to justify moving each of their pay up to $1,500,000 a year... expand into Plainfield of course.

Why the lack of civic pride in Plainfield that they don't have enough initiative to organize and build their own hospital and need Naperville to do it for them.

Plus do you really think Edwards is going to send it's best doctors to Plainfield. It's not like they have the best reputation to start with, so they sure aren't going to let it get any worse. At best Plainfield can expect something less than the mediocre healthcare Edwards is currently able to provide. At worst they will be asking themselves in a few years why they let this happened and regretting the decisions they are making today.

who is the state senator for Plainfield? What is he/she doing to help?

Plainfield, and most other small towns, is not in the position to open their own hospital. Edwards is the choice as they are the only ones willing to build in Plainfield.

Your claims of mediocre health care only apply to you. While I have had bad experiences at Edwards, I have also had good ones too. Same with Good Samaritan and CDH.

What is important is the amount of time it takes to get to the hospital for any type of care. Right now, there is no place quick on that side of town to go to for urgent care.

I've lived in Naperville for 20 years and my hospital is and always will be Central DuPage. Edwards isn't even close to CDH in quality of care, services, specialties, or independent hospital rankings. If I need hospital treatment I want great, not mediocre health care.

Don't take my word for it, check it out for yourself. I think you will be definitely be surprised at how really, really good CDH is.

Oh, and if CDH didn't exist? Then try learning something about Good Samaritan in Downers Grove. They completely blow Edwards away too... as in off the map.

If Plainfield needs a hospital I'm not sure why they don't just build their own. They would be far better off starting from scratch than settling for what Edwards will be able to offer them.

Or maybe Plainfield thinks mediocre health care is just good enough?

As a recent Tribune editorial stated, I think the hospital board should be done away with. There is a need for a hospital in the Plainfield area that is being denied by politics. I think it will be very difficult for Edwards to have their plan approved with the present governor as they exposed the dirty politics and kickback scams while trying to win approval for their plan.

Ever get the feeling that the current bag man is afraid to tell Edward's management how much it will cost?