You've got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away...

Obama's mortgage cram downs and loan forgiveness programs in the pipeline.

US set for ‘big bang’ financial clean-up

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/15f37800-ef05-11dd-bbb5-0000779fd2ac.html

Rambo and AA has wearing the foil beanies with the shiny side in completely cooked your brains? I see it recommended in moist ham recipes all the time.

Bubo,
Make yourself another hat. The shiny side is supposed to go OUT, not IN.

The sky is falling! The sky is falling!

Rambo,

I got a good laugh out of this one about ten years ago.

Keep em coming,

Bubo

PS There is still time for you to buy your non-hybrid car for $25K instead of $35K for a hybrid, it may not be too late to default on your mortgage so you can get a knock down, or run out and buy a house you can't afford ASAP, it may not be too late to schedule your elective bypass operation, Pat Buchanan's books are still available for now, you should start recording Limbaugh so you can have someone to hate later when he is legislated off the air, since Christianity and Judaism and Islam all teach against homosexuality you may want to run out and buy a copy of your favorite religion's book before it and your preacher are taken into custody for hate speech.

If European decent citizens are going to be the minority in a few years, should we start affirmative action for them now so they don't fall too far behind?

Its going to be a brave new world.

By Keyboard Rambo on January 29, 2009 12:51 PM

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I want to begin by saying that Pam Davis (and many others) did us a service by helping to expose rampid corruption in Ilinois. Having said that I want to return to the question of Edward Plainfield. Plainfield will need a hospital someday but why now? They are not far from Rush-Copley or Edwards-Naperville. People need to understand that when Edwards makes this type of huge capital commitment that they will pass along the costs to those who use their services. This is NOT a free lunch! So when you are in need of hospital care you will help pay for this convenience for Plainfield. Ostensibly this is why the review board was created. Their mission is to optimize efficiency. I am not a fan of government agencies similiar to this one, but I doubt that they are biased.

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NATIONAL SOCIALIST AMERICA

With the socialists firmly in control of DC, most of these issues (Hospital location) will become increasingly irrelevant.

The redistribution plan that Congress will pass, and BKO will sign in the not too distant future, is the first step in the continuing National Emergency (93% employment, 2% economic growth, cooling planet, no domestic terrorist attacks, 95% of mortgages in good standing) that will require the FEDs to regulate and control almost everything as they "Remake America" aka National Socialism.

BKO is rapidly eliminating the anti-terrorist programs that have kept us safe for the last 7 years. After facilitating the next big attack, expect a wave of measures to "protect us"; gun round ups like Europe, hundreds of thousands of new police like Europe, expanded domestic surveillance and collection of information like Europe, expanded definitions of "hate speech" like Europe etc... First create the problem (burn the Reichstag) then implement the solution. The military is actively retraining to handle “domestic disturbances” as you read this.

Phase 1 is the redistribution of income and wealth to left leaning States, Cities and individuals. This should pass before the end of February.

Phase 2-10 will be the Govt telling you:

• What you can drive
• What you can say
• What you can teach your kids
• What your national health rationing plan will be
• What your loan balance will be based on how your group voted
• What your legal rights, employment rights, and access to education will be based on your race
• What you can listen to on the radio
• What you can read
• What you can think

Start watching for accelerating capital flight as companies and people accelerate moving their money out of the dollar in anticipation of redistribution, inflation and ultimately further collapse beyond the 50% (vs. the Euro and Gold) in the last 10 years. Not too long ago, in France the socialists declared a national emergency and froze all bank accounts and searched every car and person leaving the country for cash. This is typical when a country switches from capitalism to socialism; you have to grab the assets before you can redistribute them.

Six percent of the $1.2 Trillion (principal and interest paid to China) Economic Recovery Package is for new power and public works programs, the rest is pay offs to Obama’s supporters.

The New Deal, which was heavier on public works, was a failure

In May 1939, Treasury Secretary Henry Morgenthau testified:
"We are spending more money than we have ever spent before, and it does not work. ... I want to see this country prosperous. I want to see people get a job. I want to see people get enough to eat. We have never made good on our promises. ... I say after eight years of this administration we have just as much unemployment as when we started ... and an enormous debt, to boot."
Politically, the New Deal was a smashing success, with FDR's landslides in 1932, 1934 and 1936 virtually wiping out the GOP.
Source: http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=30214

There is an old saying in the education field... you tell the smart students once, the average students twice, and the really dumb students three times.

Edwards Hospital has now been told three times...

Are they listening and learning? Are they getting the message?

Of course they are a private, non-profit organization so who are we to care how much money they waste on their executive staff, how much money they waste on legal help, how much money they waste on consultants and architects and planners... after all it is their money, right?

It has been already documented that Edwards as a non-profit organization spends virtually next to nothing on free or charity or health care for poor, uninsured, or underinsured people... so it's not like any of this money is being diverted from charity health care services.

The only thing Edwards seems capable of these days is demonstrating a wanna-be attitude... as in they wanna-be recognized as being as good a hospital as Central DuPage or Good Samaritan. Maybe it is time they all woke up over there and instead of "aspiring to be" something they started to "actually started to be" something.

That is part of the reason they face the difficulties that they have. They are the only game in town when it comes to a hospital and have no competition. With competition it is unknown how many residents would still support Edwards and some of their current health care practices. As it is many who live on the north side go to Central DuPage. Many on the west side go to Rush-Copley. Many on the south side go to St. Francis or Silver Cross. Many on the south east side go to Advocate. Many on the east side go to Good Samaritan.

At least we who live in Naperville are surrounded by high quality health care choices and options and many of us choose to receive our medical care from other providers than Edwards. Edwards is feeling the effect of market erosion and that explains one of the reasons they are trying to find a reason to expand and are disparately trying to regain some of their lost market share.

You can bet your life that Davis and her team will be back at it though. For here there is no other option, no other choice. He job is to increase the revenue stream for the doctors that control the hospital. If she can't get the job done they will throw her out and hire someone who can get the job done.

You can put a pretty picture on it and paint all the emotion jerking sentiments about care and need and access you want, but in the end health care is nothing more than a business and it is all about money.

Glock22

I will restrain. Edwards Hospital is not a private corporation (same for all hospitals). They are taking advantage of loopholes that require them to comply with rules and regulations none of us know.

If they want to go private, then they also loose the loopholes (I noted). Pam Meyers Davis wants to have it both ways.

Good government activities

Air Traffic Control
Guarding the gold at Fort Knox

Only in America: Fine, clean it up then. But you and I disagree that they steal from the people. All of those ills, 1-6 you post are the result of what? The government aren't they? Every last one of them. So in effect, the health care industry is not stealing from the people. I stand by what I said; our government is the root of the evil in the health care industry and we seemed to have decided that the government should take over one of the biggest elements of our economy. It is just amazing and when you look around the world at government run health care or ANYTHING in our own country that is government controlled and operated, what do you see? I dare you to name one thing the government controls and operates and does successfully. Please limit your examples to either Federal or State government. Some county and local governments do operate successful projects, including Naperville and Du Page County just to name two.

Glock 22

One key flaw in you coment. THERE ARE NO PRIVATE DOLLARS IN HEALTH CARE, THEY STEAL FROM THE PEOPLE.

All special benefits for hospitals should be eliminated. They should have to pay the following taxes:

1. Property taxes
2. Income taxes
3. All other taxes
4. Edward should purchase the land that was donated by the City and paid for by taxpayers dollars through the mid 1990's.
5. Enter into free trade agreements opening books to anti trust regulation.
6. Work on a cost plus basis or agreed payments for any government money.

Until they want to be a private industry, they should be subject to this regulation. They should not pretend they are some great private industry.

You ask: Has the board made this personal or is it just the wrong project at the wrong time? Answer: None of the above. My opinion: It is corrupt people in a corrupt government in a corrupt state. This why Plainfield cannot get a hospital. The board should have been abolished after it was demostrated that there is corruption in the process. There should be no board and if someone wants to invest private dollars into a hospital or any other legal business in this state and country, the market forces that make that investment attractive should control the project. It should not be decided by some crooked people appointed by crooked politicians to facilitate their special interests. I've read some unattractive comments about Pam Davis being a difficult person to interact with and I suspect some are true. However I will take my hat off to her on the way she handled the whole matter with this stinking board. That was a job well done.