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Sept. 11 - eight years later

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Today is the eighth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks. What do you think of the changes in the country since that day? Or did much of what changed quickly change back? What are your strongest memories of that day? What else would you like to discuss regarding the subject?

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It was shocking to all Americans and my thoughts and prayers go out to all of them - especially the ones most directly impacted. However, we must go on and stand up for our democracy.

That means controlling our still leaky borders and really focusing on the next terror threats, that will not mirror the last terror actions. That requires infiltration and electronic survelliance of potential persons of interest, but most of us don't trust the government to execute that in a safe way without mistakes that cost innocent people their privacy, jobs and reputations. It's going on regardless - so enough about that.

Unfortunately, some politicians and other leaders looked at 9-11 as an opportunity to move forward on their new ill-conceived agendas. Going after political "enemies"(?), an oil grab(?), unfinished business from a prior conflict(?), lording around the world like its 1959! (meaning: we are the greatest nation on earth so we can impose our will on the rest of the world)

Next came the financial crisis, and once again, some politicians (now both parties) and other leaders (financial this time), took advantage of the situation to push new agendas...that somehow feel like another losing proposition for American citizens. Example - the banking power grab underway. Cheap money funded by we citizens - but don't even try to get your own money back in a loan. That unloaned money has to pay massive bonuses to traitors of the American way of life.

There always seems to be another crisis - translation: another opportunity for political and finanacial power grabs. Hey, that's the management school motto - "in crisis there is opportunity".

So now we have the healthcare "crisis". Voila! The government can take this all over without input from the other party - just ram it through. Say or do anything to get it passed because "we know what's best for the people" -- and our power, and our own pocket book. Mr. Politician - Why not take baby steps like doing your jobs and breaking the insurance monpolies that flourish on your watch. Allow national competition by insurance companies, or have they paid you too much to get elected?

It makes me wonder if both parties are pretty much the same in the end - seeking more power regardless of the pain caused to their citizens who are their employers (by the way). So we pay for ill-conceived war (money and lives), the bonuses of financial executives, new taxes on energy, healthcare, local property taxes, etc. Why? So the politicians can hold power by telling their local districts and donators "look what we are doing for you", even though it all cannot be paid for by China.

Sure feels like our politicians have been selling our future down the river for about 75 years. They pat each other on the back, and their local constituents keep re-electing them. But what have they really accomplished? Our country has the larget debt in the world (the real figure cannot even be calculated which tells you a lot -- but some have it over $50 trillion when you count unfunded Social Security, etc. -- the current system being a pile of IOUs.

What we need perhaps is a new party developed from the ground up - that means by and for the people...based on what the majority of Americans want. The problem is "What do we want?" Competitively priced goods and services? Good paying jobs? Better healthcare? The most attractive business climate in the world - leading to jobs?

I was a work and one of our secretaries got a call from home about it. There was a TV in the office and we just gathered around watching; stunned by what was happening. Our numbness turned to anger that this was happening; that the terrorists were able to get on the planes with weapons; anger with the Clinton administration who had scaled down our security; and anger at Muslims in general. You can be offended by that last statement but that was the reality where I worked. The attitude among my coworkers and myself was a longing to fight back.

On my way to work that day I remember listening to WGN Radio who said they had a report of a small commuter plane that had struck the World Trade Center. I remember thinking that a 1-2 person Cessna probably hit the building.

When I arrived at work I saw the second plane hit and was riveted to the news throughout the day. In the back of my mind I kept thinking the tragedies were all mutually exclusive events instead of one planned coordinated effort. Trying to make sense of it and the gravity of the situation was difficult. I think it took a good day or two before I truly comprehended what had happened.

To this day I always give a "thumbs up", "attaboy", and a sincere "Thank You" to any military personnel I may come across.

For some reason I keep the full newspaper from both Sept 11th and 12th. The Sept 11th (which of course was delivered well before the planes hit) has the regular look and feel of the everyday paper. The Sept 12th paper has complete coverage of the events. I often look at both papers and feel like I'm holding history.

I remember it like it was yesterday too.

Unfortunately I think too many Americans don't. Short term memories. And I think we are becoming so close to letting our guard down again.

Thank you to all the troops as well for fighting the war on terrorism. Any free walking American owes all of you the highest gratitude for the freedoms we all enjoy. Keep up the good fight.

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I remember it like it was yesterday.

The impossibly sick feeling in my stomach while trying to reach my brother who was supposed to fly into New York from Boston that day.

Our entire family crying numerous times for those killed in the attacks.

Trying to imagine what the families who learned that loved ones would never come in the front door again must have been going through.

The brave firefighters, police, and medical personnel who tried to save those in the towers.

The heros on United 93 who took down the bastards who tried to put a plane into our capitol.

Sitting in my suit and tie watching the TV coverage from 7:45 am, riveted until almost 2:30 that next morning then collapsing into bed mentally exhausted from what I'd just seen.

The eerie silence of no planes coming over our house on the southwestern landing approach into O'Hare.

The sense of community and togetherness in the days after.

Pulling off to the side of the road with tears in my eyes on Friday September 15 at exactly 12:00 noon as every radio station in the country played the most beautiful version of America the Beautiful that has ever been sung - the one by Ray Charles.

The profound sense of patriotism around the USA as it seemed like everyone was flying their flags.

I hope none of us ever forget how we felt that day. We cannot let our guard down. A profound "thank you" to all who are fighting the war on terrorism. We owe you a debt of gratitude!

I will never forget seeing footage of people jumping from the upper most floors of the buildings. They were in an instant given the choice of jumping to their deaths or being burned alive. That was then. Now, today, some among us belive that showing a terror detainee a gun or power drill during questioning is cruel and inhumane. Some sort of violation of a law that keeps us from becoming them. Really. As if the implication of their moral arguments will somehow diminish those images and most opinion of what is actually cruel and inhumane. Another fact we will all have to contend with is that eventually, the entire event will be a mere foot note in history. As significant to us as a society as for example Pearl Harbor. It happened long ago and some day you will ask children in a school what is important about the date September 11th and most will not have a clue. That to me is the real shame.

I was on a plane that day and in the air at the time of the attacks. I remember the pilot announcing that we would be landing immediately - no reason given - even though we were not at our destination. we did not learn of the attacks until we saw the pictures on the TV in the airport. I was shocked, horrified and angry all at the same time. It was extremely disturbing too, to see armed soldiers at the airport as we left to try to get a rental car. (The airport was also an active Air Nation Guard Base)

Of course, as many others here, I was at work and watched in horror as all the events unfolded. I will never forget the surreal feeling, the loss of innocence on that date, wondering where the next attack would take place. I wanted to gather up my family scattered across the nation, to mourn with all Americans.

I have a friend of Turkish descent who became physically ill on 9-11 and quit jogging at the time for fear of being targeted. He was also very concerned that his young children may also suffer because of their ethnicity. Very sad.

It makes me angry to think that in many parts of the world, terrorists attacks are not uncommon in daily life. Barbaric, reprehensible. We need leaders who are ever vigilant in prevention. I am not confident that enough is being done.

I was driving to work from Wheaton to Oakbrook. Listened on my way to work, the TV was already on at work and we watched through the second building coming down. I phoned my kid's schools to see if the news had been shared with the students. Both Wheaton North and Monroe Middle School had told the news to the students. I then immediately left work to pick my HS son and daughter and MS son, as their dad lives in Long Island and works in Manhattan. They were all waiting in their school offices for me, just huge eyes looking at me as I walked in. There were other young people waiting also, same look on their face, perhaps they had parents traveling for work in NY or any number of reasons to be more closely connected than most suburban CHI kids. I understand the need to share the news to the whole school, but I don't think either of the schools anticipated what that news would mean to some of the children, it didn't seem that either school were doing anything for them but having them sit in the office and wait for parents that might have called as I did and came to collect my kids? No adults were with them, just the normal office routines going on back behind the counter. I know it was an unorganized time, but I wish more could have been done for those kids at the time, it took me some time to drive back from Oakbrook to Wheaton in traffic...not just 5 or 10 minutes, and make it to both schools.

It took us hours to get through to my kid's dad's cell phone. He and his wife were ok, but walking home to Long Island, as trains weren't running or accessible as I recall.

We were blessed to only have been concerned with events at that time until we heard from their dad. It would have been unmeasurably worse had my children had to deal with other news, as so many others had to. I know their stepmom bought gas masks for the family afterwards, just in case. I don't know if I would have done that, but to each their own dealing with tough situations.

Just another perspective, it's a small world.

To Anonymous on September 13, 2009 at 9:19 AM,

That actually was a statement. Sorry to read that you missed the point.

Wow, it IS amazing that other discussions generate hundreds of responses, yet there are currently four here.
I remember that when the attack happened, I was at my job. Someone came into my office to say that a plane hit one of the WTC towers. We thought maybe a small prop plane or something, but when we heard a second one hit, we all gathered in the lunch room to watch the story unfolding. Mind you, this was a large manufacturing plant, and all of the bosses allowed everyone to walk off the lines to watch. As the first tower came down, it was silent in the room, no one could believe what we were seeing. The horror of that day will never be erased from my memory.
I am sitting here now, as a mother/stepmother of six boys and one girl. Two of our sons are in the military. One just returned from Iraq and the other from Afghanistan. I don't condem or promote the war. I don't pretend to know everything about the politics behind it all, but I will tell you this - I am proud of how Americans seemed to rally around each other after the horror of the attack on our soil. I hope we never forget it or become too comfortable. A 9/11 could happen again and it might even be closer to home for some of us. Be ever vigilant, be ever faithful. God bless us all and keep us safe...

Anonymous on September 12, 2009 3:10 PM
A day after this posts went up and only 2 comments? Yet 459 comments about one homeless man says a lot about how apathetic Americans can be when something does not touch their own life in a very personal way.

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Yes Anonymous, and you use the space to scold everyone else without making any statement yourself.

God bless America.

Yes, God bless all those who lost their lives 8 years ago and give a thought of thanks for the many many acts of courage and kindness that day, and in the following days, as we tried to come to grips with the enormity of the loss. I often think of all those Fire Fighters and Police running up the stairs, unknowingly to their death, as the office workers were running down the stairs to life.

September 11th is a day of remembrance; for those who lost their lives, those that had the unbelievable fortune to escape, and the incredible hero’s that day and thereafter, public servant and ordinary citizen alike. I honor them all, the living, and, the dead, in New York, Pennsylvania, DC, and elsewhere, who, by giving their very life, or in a simple act of kindness and comfort, showed the true greatness of this country.


A day after this posts went up and only 2 comments? Yet 459 comments about one homeless man says a lot about how apathetic Americans can be when something does not touch their own life in a very personal way.

Q
What do you think of the changes in the country since that day?
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Half of us take Terrorism against American's seriously, the other half apparently don't.

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Or did much of what changed quickly change back?

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Pres Obama, AG Holder and the ACLU are busy dismantling the CIA and neutering what is left with threats of prosecutions if they do their jobs. Obama will use them for the fall guys (patsies) after the next big attack.

War (proactively killing the enemy) is over, it's back to send in the detectives to investigate (reactive) after the bombs go off and all the body parts are picked up.

Like Clinton (OK City), will Obama attempt to declare martial law after the next huge attack?

Q.
What are your strongest memories of that day?

A.
US citizens leaping to their deaths from a burning 100 story building because our Govt repeatedly failed to secure our borders or kill terrorists before they kill us.


Q
What else would you like to discuss regarding the subject?

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Since Obama is repeating all of the Clinton mistakes, and the Bush mistake of keeping 12-20 million illegals from God-knows-where in the USA; We should be debating if Obama will declare martial law after the next devastating attack, and what shape martial law will take. The last time, Sen Bird and the other Dems told Clinton if he declared Martial law (OK City) he would be impeached before sundown.

Does anyone believe Schumer, Reid, Durbin or Al Frankin will impeach Obama if he declares martial law?

God Bless the 343 firefighters that gave their lives trying to save thousands of people in the twin towers that day. My god watch over them and the families that they left behind.

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